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	<title>Comments on: Is It Demand or is It the Speculator?</title>
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		<title>by: Joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I was just thinking of something similar using a simple supply and demand curve idea.  The demand for oil has an infinite slope so you get a line straight up and down (also infinitely inflexible).  The supply of oil is pretty much fixed, so you get a supply with a slope of 0.  The influx of capital searching for the fixed supply of oil would normally cause a shortage, but demand is infinitely inflexible causing a demand curve shift to a higher price.  

Your analysis with speculation in the oil futures market really puts a name to the influx of capital, and shows how they can take advantage of inflexible supply and an inflexible demand curve.  

Limiting the capital available to the speculators in the futures market by increasing their margin requirements may cause demand shifts back to a lower price, but ultimately we need to do something about that darn inflexible demand curve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just thinking of something similar using a simple supply and demand curve idea.  The demand for oil has an infinite slope so you get a line straight up and down (also infinitely inflexible).  The supply of oil is pretty much fixed, so you get a supply with a slope of 0.  The influx of capital searching for the fixed supply of oil would normally cause a shortage, but demand is infinitely inflexible causing a demand curve shift to a higher price.  </p>
<p>Your analysis with speculation in the oil futures market really puts a name to the influx of capital, and shows how they can take advantage of inflexible supply and an inflexible demand curve.  </p>
<p>Limiting the capital available to the speculators in the futures market by increasing their margin requirements may cause demand shifts back to a lower price, but ultimately we need to do something about that darn inflexible demand curve!
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		<title>by: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.investorgeeks.com/articles/2008/06/09/is-it-demand-or-is-it-the-speculator/#comment-413917</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Amzingly informative.

Not important, but have you considered using www.scribd.com or www.slideshare.com to share yor slides.

You could then embed the doc in the post, etc.

More on point, I think I'm torn here. I'd hate to hinder folks ability to make money... even if they are just acting as middle men. However, when so much is at stake, maybe it is better to have regulation here. I like the idea that the speculators would have to (or might want to) invest in the companies working with the comodities rather than the comodities themselves. This would have a net benefit to the economy as a whole compared to what we have now.

It's also hard (for me) to say what the downsides would be for comodity providers/sellers if they didn't have that increased demand/shelter from speculators. Is it worth ripping off the comodity users to ensure that the comodity providers can have consistant profits. In the case of oil, those providers are the most profitable comanies in the world, so I'd say no. But maybe we do need to preserve other comodities?

Thanks for putting this together and sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amzingly informative.</p>
<p>Not important, but have you considered using <a href='http://www.scribd.com' rel='nofollow'>www.scribd.com</a> or <a href='http://www.slideshare.com' rel='nofollow'>www.slideshare.com</a> to share yor slides.</p>
<p>You could then embed the doc in the post, etc.</p>
<p>More on point, I think I&#8217;m torn here. I&#8217;d hate to hinder folks ability to make money&#8230; even if they are just acting as middle men. However, when so much is at stake, maybe it is better to have regulation here. I like the idea that the speculators would have to (or might want to) invest in the companies working with the comodities rather than the comodities themselves. This would have a net benefit to the economy as a whole compared to what we have now.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also hard (for me) to say what the downsides would be for comodity providers/sellers if they didn&#8217;t have that increased demand/shelter from speculators. Is it worth ripping off the comodity users to ensure that the comodity providers can have consistant profits. In the case of oil, those providers are the most profitable comanies in the world, so I&#8217;d say no. But maybe we do need to preserve other comodities?</p>
<p>Thanks for putting this together and sharing.
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