
Getting started in the Market
What follows is a question posed to us after Jason’s article last week. As well as my response to that question. I hope to have answered the reader’s questions completely, and I hope that my response proves valuable as well. I’ve left the response as is, and I’ll be covering different sorts of investments and other strategies in weeks to come, as I build my own confidence and knowledge. I’ll close with a few comments that cover some areas that I feel my original response did not adequately address.
I read your Savings Speech article today, and it was not unlike many time-value-of-money articles I have read in the past. I am curious, though, what type of investment you would expect to see an average 9% return from? I am 24 years old — graduated from college in 2003 — and I have yet to begin any serious investing because either the interest rates aren’t substantial enough to outweigh what I am losing in interest to student loans, or the risk seems to great to me to wager my hard-earned income.
For example, CD’s are very reliable, but only earn around 1-2%. Even with CD laddering (as BOA is so fond of advertising) you’re looking at maybe 2-2.5%. Savings accounts are a joke. Bonds are decent, but still don’t approach your 9% average, and the stock market is just too risky for the casual just-out-of-college investor unless you go with some nice, safe index funds — which once again take you back to fairly low (although steady) interest rates. Mutual funds can have pretty hefty fees, and from what I’ve seen also don’t quite get there as far as a rate of return goes. Is there some other significant investment opportunity out there that I am missing out on? If so, what is it? How could I get this mythical 9% you speak of?
As Jason mentioned, investment takes a certain risk tolerance. There are however ways to mitigate risk, and I’ll be writing about this in the future, but mutual funds are a great way to start. Take Oakmark Equity and Income I for example (data here: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pm?s=OAKBX, full disclosure, I own some of this fund through my 401k). Their best one year return was above 26% and its worst one year return was a bit more than -2.5%. Over the last five years it’s averaged above 11%. There is some other interesting data on the site under performance, take a look around. (For instance their worst 3 year return was 9.99%)
I’m not saying that you should invest in this fund, but I am saying that there are a ton of investments like this out there, and they are definitely worth looking at. Again investment is about taking risk and thinking long term, so if you end up behind in the short term, you always have those 26% plus years to look forward to. My advice is to look around and find some investments that have a risk rating you are comfortable with, and a return you are satisfied with.
If you still don’t feel comfortable, you may do well to sit down with a financial advisor, and develop an investment plan based on what you want and what your goals are. Find someone you like, and you can trust, at a reputable investment firm. After sitting down with them, it may be as simple as just cutting them a check every month, and waiting for the quarterly statements. Then as you get more comfortable, take a more active role.
As an exercise I’d recommend creating a tracking portfolio, even if you decide to go with a financial advisor. This will help you learn and gain a level of comfort with the market. First I’d pick a percentage of your income that you’d like to invest. Then I’d pick a time period over which to invest it, are you going to be investing monthly, quarterly, yearly? After that I’d make my investment choices, and decide how much of my portfolio I’d want each investment to constitute. Then, using the amounts, time periods and percentages I’ve chosen I’d start “making” those purchases, and tracking them. (I do this through yahoo finance.) See what works; make up portfolios of different investments, as well as varying purchasing strategies. This will allow you to play around risk free, until you develop a strategy that you’re comfortable with.
-fs
I’d like to make two comments. First on BofA’s, which I assume is Bank of America, interest rates. Then I’ll talk briefly about some of the fees associated with mutual funds. Won’t take long and I promise it won’t hurt.
So, Congress passed a law that requires that a single bank take no more than 10% of the United States deposits. “Fine”, you say, “what does this have to do with Bank of America? They don’t take 10% of the country’s deposits.” Right you are, however after Bank of America completes the acquisition of MBNA, they’ll have slightly over 10% of deposits. This could prove to be a regulatory hurdle for the acquisition, so BofA needs to reduce deposits. What better way to do this, than to give consumers a terrible interest rate?
Now, Mutual funds, the reader noted that many mutual funds suffer from hefty fees. The solution: Look for funds with a low expense ratio, and no loads. A low expense ratio means that the fund is charging you less overhead for the operation of the fund. It’s also best to avoid any fund which charges a 12b1 fee. This is money the fund charges you to market the fund to other investors. A load is a fee charged either when you buy the fund (a front load) or sell the fund (a back load), by going with a no load fund, you avoid paying these fees. There are a few other things to watch out for when selecting funds, but I’ll cover that in a later post. I hope to have helped inspire you to take a good hard look at the market, and if you were already interested I hope that you found the article informative. Feel free to contact us with any questions, or jump over to the Forums and strike up a discussion.
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1. Jason | November 22nd, 2005 at 10:06 am
For further reading, here is my reply to the original email sent:
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Hey xxxxxxxx,
The 9% number comes from the referenced CNN Savings Calculator which states:
“When estimating a projected rate of return, keep in mind that the classic portfolio with 60% in stocks and 40% in bonds gained an average of 9% over the past 75 years.”
link: http://cgi.money.cnn.com/tools/savingscalc/savingscalc.html
I’ve seen similar numbers referenced other places for the average return expected for a diversified portfolio over the span of your typical person’s career up to retirement.
[note: Our own Chris is a little more conservative with these numbers.]
You’re right that bonds, CDs, and other low risk investments don’t come close to a 9% return. You’re also right that investing in stocks can be risky, but you know what? You’re only 24, be a little risky. When you get closer to retirement and the prospect of having to live off of your savings, you’ll have to pull it back a bit (or a lot) on the stocks.
I know it can be scary investing in stocks. Especially after living through (and looking for a job during the middle) of an economic downturn like we had 2001-2003. But it’s really not that bad. As long as you make smart choices, diversify your stocks (across industries and amount of risk), and put enough capital into your savings, you should be able to weather the downturns (and upswings!) rather nicely.
For someone your age, stocks is definitely the place to be with investing. Usually, the first place to start is with your 401k if your job offers one. You won’t have to pay taxes on money invested in a 401k and your employer may even add a match up to some % of your income, which is basically like a 50-100% return on investment right there. For example, my employer’s match is 50% up to 6% of my income. Say I make $50k per year. If I save $3000 per year in my 401k, my company will add an additional $1500 for a total of $4500 plus any capital gains for the year.
I could go on further, but it may be better if you started reading some of the books in our recommendations list or the “personal finance” sections of the sites recommended on our page. Another great thing you can do is read our archives and keep coming back to our site to see what investments we are making and talking about.
Thanks for your interest. I hope this has helped.
Regards,
Jason
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